Fluoridation Treats the Water!!! Ministry of Health Experts Strike Again
Ministry of Health Expert’s Statement: Fluoridation treats the water!!!
On 10 Feb 2025, Rotorua Lakes Council held a public session with officials from the Ministry of Health (Dentist Dr Riana Clarke and Medical Officer of Health Dr Phil Shoemack) presenting on the topic of fluoridation. Councillors were able to ask questions. The Director General of Health at the time, Dr Diana Sarfati, did not attend herself, and there was no opportunity for the public to ask questions.
Cr Patterson asked about informed consent as described in the HDC Code of Rights and suggested there was no consent being given by those forced to consume water with fluoridation chemicals added.
Astonishingly, in response Dr Shoemack said water fluoridation was not treating individuals but rather treating the water!!!

Adding fluoride to water is not treatment of individuals, it’s treating the water.
-Dr Phil Shoemack
Really, Dr Shoemack? The fluoride is put in the water for the preventative treatment of human teeth. It is not treating the water to make it safe to drink.
We suspect that, thankfully, this nonsense from ‘government experts’ was clear to the councillors – some of whom heard proper information from US lawyer Michael Connett – which should only strengthen their resolve to protect themselves from the “poisoning with intent” of their community.
Here’s another example of dogmatic edicts…
Another safe and effective – yeah right!
In light of this appalling disconnect from reality and almost sociopathic rationalisation, we are extremely grateful to the councils of Whangarei and Rotorua for pushing back against Ministry doublespeak.
WAtch: The Rotorua Lakes Council Meeting
The full recording of the Rotorua Lakes Council Meeting can be viewed on the link below.
Fluoridation Workshop – 10 February 2025
Brace yourself folks: the ‘expert’ opinion @46 minutes will require a moment of serious mental recalibration. Are the New Zealand Ministry of Health experts really this deluded? No wonder trust in our country’s healthcare system is at an all-time low, with these muppets leading the helm of public health.
CHoice vs Local Councils
While New Zealand First’s private member’s bill to put decisions about water fluoridation back into the hands of local councils would seem less tyrannical than coming from the MoH, the fact remains that water fluoridation is forced medical treatment. There still remains no choice.
The fact is, anyone can (and probably does albeit unknowingly) buy fluoridated toothpaste. It could be argued that if fluoride was to work to prevent cavities, then applying it directly to the teeth would be a more effective option than drinking it. This at least gives New Zealanders a choice about what they put in their bodies. Many areas around the world never have or are no longer fluoridating drinking water. Their citizens have a choice.
Whether or not the decision comes from central or local government, the fundamental right to decline a medical intervention remains.
Acknowledging Whangarei’s Mayor with thanks
Dear Mayor Cocurullo,
We would like to thank and congratulate you for the position you and your Council have taken on behalf of all New Zealanders with regards to water fluoridation.
Thank you for listening to your community.
Thank you for using your cognitive powers and protecting babies’ brains.
Thank you for standing up against government overreach.
Thank you for standing strong for the current and future children of your community.
Thank you for doing the right thing.
We appreciate your willingness to lead the charge.
Best wishes,
NZDSOS
So if the BORA analysis determined that they were treating the water and not individuals, then why was their presentation around tooth decay (I’m not aware that water has teeth, but then I’m no expert)?
Te Whatu Ora’s own website states that Taumata Arowai took over as regulator of drinking water in 2021 (https://www.tewhatuora.govt.nz/health-services-and-programmes/environmental-health/drinking-water) So if Fluoridation of our drinking water is treating the water, wouldn’t that come under the regulator’s purview? If so then why isn’t it part of the standard or added to the water delivered to those on tank water?
Some stat’s (skip the national average comparison) on tooth decay, fillings, missing teeth seemed to show 5 year old have almost twice those of year 8 students. If these kids are in areas not fluoridated wouldn’t you expect expect that to increase? Given that 5 year olds often appear to have missing teeth as their adult teeth come through I wonder how they counted missing teeth?
Their presentation also noted that in fluoridated areas there was a 48% improvement in 0-4year olds but only 21% and 30% in 18-44 years and 44+ respectively. Wouldn’t this actually imply that the biggest improver of dental health may be free dental treatment, which stops at 18yrs?
I could go on all day as their presentation has left me with far more questions that answers but thanks for the link…I needed a good laugh!
The very best treatment for water is Chlorine Dioxide.